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New York
SubFamilyニューヨーク(Nyū Yōku)
TransliterationTranslation: New York
Overview
The New York subfamily covers the advanced rubber guard position where the guard player has progressed past Chill Dog to establish a deeper, more controlling configuration that directly threatens submissions. [1] New York is one of the more advanced positions in the rubber guard sequence, providing very tight control and direct access to the gogoplata, omoplata, and triangle choke. [1],[2] The position requires significant flexibility and technical proficiency in the rubber guard system. [2],[3]
History & Origin
Effectiveness
New York is an advanced rubber guard position that extends mission control into a triangular arm trap. [1]
Lineage
Developed by Eddie Bravo as part of the 10th Planet rubber guard system. [1]
Competition Record
Used in no-gi competition by 10th Planet practitioners. [1]
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Biomechanical Mechanism
Primary Action — Using the legs and hips to control the opponent from the bottom — maintaining distance management and attack angles
Joints Involved — Hips (primary engine for sweeps and attacks), knees (framing and hooking), ankles (secondary hooks)
Force Vector — Pulling, framing, and hip-escaping — creating angles for attacks while preventing passing
Positional Mechanic — The guard is an active offensive position — leg control compensates for bottom positioning by threatening sweeps and submissions
Position & Entry
From closed guard — Break the opponent's posture, secure mission control (overhook the head with the leg), establish rubber guard configuration
From high guard — Climb the legs high, flex the hip to bring the foot to the shoulder, lock the rubber guard position
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Ratings
Risk of injury to the person this technique is applied to
2
Low2/10
Guard positions are defensive; injury risk comes from transitions, not the position itself
Skill level needed to execute this technique reliably
Intermediate
Whether this technique is allowed under major competition rule sets
Restricted
— IJF — Guard pulling penalized as non-combativity — ground...
IJF Sport and Organisation Rules 2025, Article 27PDFLegal
— IBJJF — Legal — guard is fundamental to BJJ, sweeps from ...
IBJJF Rules Book v6.0, June 2024PDF— ADCC — Legal, guard pull penalized -1 point in points por...
ADCC Rules Update, April 2025PDF— Unified MMA — Legal — no penalty for playing guard
Unified Rules of MMA, August 2025PDF— FIAS Sport Sambo — Legal
FIAS International Sambo Competition RulesPDFTraining Notes
✓New york is an advanced rubber guard position that isolates the opponent's arm by threading it under the controlling leg — setting up the gogoplata and omoplata from a more secure angle than chill dog (Eddie Bravo, Mastering the Rubber Guard, 2006)
✓New york is reached from mission control: instead of reaching for the far arm (chill dog), the guard player threads the near arm under the rubber guard leg
✓The arm threading in new york creates a deeper arm isolation than chill dog — the arm is trapped between the legs, not just controlled by the hand
✓From new york, the gogoplata is higher percentage because the arm is already cleared from the path of the shin choke
✓The omoplata from new york is also enhanced: the arm is pre-isolated, making the spin easier
✓New york requires more flexibility than chill dog because the arm threading adds complexity to the leg position
✓New york is considered the more advanced path in the rubber guard decision tree — chill dog is the beginner-friendly path
Common Mistakes
!Attempting new york before mastering mission control and chill dog — it is the advanced progression
!Threading the wrong arm — the near arm (on the rubber guard leg side) is threaded under the leg
!Forcing the arm thread without sufficient flexibility — the position requires even more hip mobility than chill dog
!Not maintaining shin pressure on the neck during the thread — posture control must remain constant
!Staying in new york without attacking — the position is a setup; transition to the submission immediately
!Threading the arm but losing the shin position — prioritize the shin control over the arm isolation
!Not practising the transition from mission control to new york — the path must be drilled until fluid
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Counter Techniques
Setup Chain
1Achieve Guard Contact — establish leg control around or against the opponent
2Control Grips — secure sleeve, collar, or wrist control for manipulation
3Manage Distance — use legs and grips to control the range and prevent passing
4Threaten Submissions/Sweeps — create offensive threats to keep the opponent reactive
Sources & References
Primary Source
Advanced Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Techniques (Marcelo Garcia, 2011)
1BookThe Guard (Moreira & Beneville, 2008)
Alias sources — [1] Advanced Rubber Guard (Bravo, 2006) [2] Advanced Rubber Guard (Bravo, 2006) [3] Advanced Rubber Guard (Bravo, 2006)
2BookJiu-Jitsu University (Ribeiro, 2008)
Effectiveness sources — [1] Mastering the Rubber Guard (Bravo, 2006)
3OtherJapanese Combat Sports Katakana Convention
Standard katakana transliteration of Western martial arts terminology (外来語) — used in Japanese MMA, boxing, and BJJ communities
4CitationThe Guard (Moreira & Beneville, 2008)
Alias sources — [1] Advanced Rubber Guard (Bravo, 2006) [2] Advanced Rubber Guard (Bravo, 2006) [3] Advanced Rubber Guard (Bravo, 2006)
5CitationJiu-Jitsu University (Ribeiro, 2008)
Effectiveness sources — [1] Mastering the Rubber Guard (Bravo, 2006)
Community
Athletics
Requires
hip flexibility, active legs, grip management
Favours
long legs for distance control and guard retention
Key muscles
hip flexors, adductors, quadriceps, core, grip
Sub-techniques
Frequently Asked Questions
How does the New York work?
The New York subfamily covers the advanced rubber guard position where the guard player has progressed past Chill Dog to establish a deeper, more controlling configuration that directly threatens submissions. New York is one of the more advanced positions in the rubber guard sequence, providing very tight control and direct access to the gogoplata, omoplata, and triangle choke.
Where does the New York come from?
New York was named and developed by Eddie Bravo as an advanced position in the 10th Planet rubber guard system. The distinctive naming convention of rubber guard positions is a hallmark of the 10th Planet system.
Is the New York legal in competition?
IBJJF: legal — Legal — guard is fundamental to BJJ, sweeps from guard score 2 points; IJF: restricted — Guard pulling penalized as non-combativity — groundwork from guard permitted …; ADCC: legal — Legal, guard pull penalized -1 point in points portion; Unified MMA: legal — Legal — no penalty for playing guard; FIAS Sport Sambo: legal — Legal
How dangerous is the New York?
Danger rating 2/10. Low — guard positions are defensive; injury risk comes from transitions, not the position itself
How do I set up the New York?
The standard setup chain: Achieve Guard Contact → Control Grips → Manage Distance → Threaten Submissions/Sweeps.
How do I defend against the New York?
Standard counters include: Guard Pass — systematically work to clear the legs and establish a dominant position / Leg Pin — control one or both legs to neutralize guard retention / Pressure Passing — use heavy chest pressure to flatten and immobilize the guard player.
What are the variants of the New York?
Common variants: Standard guard (primary leg and grip configuration for control and attack…); Offensive guard (configured for sweeps and submissions); Defensive guard (prioritising distance management and preventing passes); Transition guard (moving between guard types to adjust to the opponent's pa…).
How effective is the New York in competition?
Used in no-gi competition by 10th Planet practitioners.
What are common mistakes when doing the New York?
Top errors to watch for: Attempting new york before mastering mission control and chill dog — it is the advanced progression / Threading the wrong arm — the near arm (on the rubber guard leg side) is threaded under the leg / Forcing the arm thread without sufficient flexibility — the position requires even more hip mobility than chill dog / Not maintaining shin pressure on the neck during the thread — posture control must remain constant.
What are other names for the New York?
The New York is also known as Nyū Yōku, New York, New York Position, Overhook Rubber Guard.