Fat Man Roll - Turtle Position Escape | Grappling Techniques
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Roll Escape·The Fight Centre - Brisbane
In this video we discuss a turtle position escape - the fat man roll. If you've been finding yourself in the turtle pos…
Перевод: roll escape
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The Roll Escape family covers turtle escapes that use rolling mechanics to reverse the position, moving the turtled fighter from a bottom defensive position to a more favourable one through rotational momentum. [1] Roll escapes are derived primarily from wrestling, where rolling from the referee's position is a fundamental escape technique. [1],[2] This family includes the Peterson roll (a shoulder roll that reverses the position) and the snap roll (a quick, explosive roll to create space), both of which use the opponent's top pressure against them by redirecting it through the roll. [2],[3]
История и происхождение
Страна происхождения· показано в случайном порядке
- ГрецияБорьба
- СШАБорьба, ММА
- БразилияБразильское джиу-джитсу, ММА
- Япония転がり逃げ(Korogari Nige)Бразильское джиу-джитсу
Эффективность
Родословная
Rolling escapes are found in judo, wrestling, and BJJ. [1]
Соревновательные результаты
Roll escapes are used in judo, wrestling, and BJJ competition. [1]
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Биомеханический механизм
Primary Action — Creating space and movement to transition from an inferior to a neutral or superior position
Joints Involved — Hips (primary escape engine through bridging and shrimping), elbows (frames), knees (guard recovery)
Force Vector — Bridging (upward), shrimping (lateral), or inversion (rotational) — creating space is the fundamental escape principle
Escape Mechanic — Timing the escape with the opponent's weight shift or attack attempt maximises success rate
Позиция и вход
From turtle (opponent on top) — Protect the neck, fight the grips, sit out or granby roll to recover guard or reverse position
From turtle (opponent breaking down) — Before being flattened, execute a sit-out or roll to create space and recover
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Оценки
Риск травмы для человека, к которому применяется техника
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Умеренный3/10
Turtle escapes involve rolling and granby movements; neck strain risk
Уровень мастерства, необходимый для надёжного выполнения техники
Средний
Разрешена ли техника по основным соревновательным правилам
— Unified MMA — Legal defensive/transitional technique
Unified Rules of MMA, August 2025PDF— IBJJF — Legal
IBJJF Rules Book v6.0, June 2024PDF— IJF — Legal
IJF Sport and Organisation Rules 2025, Article 27PDF— ADCC — Legal
ADCC Rules Update, April 2025PDF— FIAS Sport Sambo — Legal
FIAS International Sambo Competition RulesPDF— NCAA Folkstyle — Legal, escape scores 1 point, reversal s...
NCAA Wrestling Rules 2025-26PDFЗаметки по тренировке
✓Roll escapes from turtle use rotational momentum to create space and recover guard or standing position (Marcelo Garcia, Advanced Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, 2011)
✓Rolling escapes work by using the opponent's own pressure and weight against them — their forward pressure fuels the roll
✓The two primary roll escapes: Peterson roll (forward roll to guard) and snap roll (quick roll to face the opponent)
✓Roll escapes are effective when the opponent has heavy upper-body pressure on the turtle — the roll uses their weight
✓The roll must be committed — partial rolls expose the back; commit to the full rotation
✓After the roll, immediately establish guard or scramble to a standing position
✓Roll escapes are particularly effective in wrestling where the opponent is applying heavy chest pressure from the top
✓Timing: roll when the opponent is driving forward or reaching for a submission — their weight shift creates the opportunity
Типичные ошибки
!Rolling without commitment — partial rolls are worse than no roll; commit to the full rotation
!Rolling away from the opponent — rolls should use the opponent's pressure and weight direction
!Rolling when the opponent is sitting back (not driving forward) — the roll needs their forward pressure
!Not protecting the neck during the roll — tuck the chin and keep hands near the neck
!Landing in a worse position — the roll must end with positional improvement
!Rolling every time from turtle — the opponent reads patterns; vary between roll, sit-out, and standup
!Not controlling the opponent during the roll — maintain grip or body contact throughout
Связанные техники
Контрприёмы
Цепочка подготовки
1Create Space — use frames, hip movement, or leverage to generate room to move
2Disrupt Control — break or weaken the opponent's grips and weight placement
3Execute Escape — apply the specific escape mechanic with timing and commitment
4Recover Position — establish a safe position (guard, standing, or top)
Источники и ссылки
Основной источник
Jiu-Jitsu University (Saulo Ribeiro, 2008)
1КнигаJiu-Jitsu University (Ribeiro, 2008)
Alias sources — [1] Wrestling Physical Conditioning Encyclopedia (Welker, 2010) [2] NCAA Wrestling Rules and Interpretations
2КнигаMastering Jujitsu (Gracie & Danaher, 2003)
Effectiveness sources — [1] Jiu-Jitsu University (Ribeiro, 2008) [2] Wrestling Physical Conditioning Encyclopedia (Petrov, 1977)
Standard Japanese martial arts terminology (kanji/hiragana)
4ДругоеJapanese Martial Arts Standard Terminology (武道用語)
Established Japanese martial arts naming convention — native Japanese term (和語/漢語)
5ЦитатаJiu-Jitsu University (Ribeiro, 2008)
Alias sources — [1] Wrestling Physical Conditioning Encyclopedia (Welker, 2010) [2] NCAA Wrestling Rules and Interpretations
6ЦитатаMastering Jujitsu (Gracie & Danaher, 2003)
Effectiveness sources — [1] Jiu-Jitsu University (Ribeiro, 2008) [2] Wrestling Physical Conditioning Encyclopedia (Petrov, 1977)
Сообщество
Атлетизм
Requires
hip mobility, explosive bridge/shrimp power, timing
Favours
flexible hips and strong glutes for escape movements
Key muscles
glutes, hip flexors, core, triceps (framing)
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Дистанция
Peterson Roll
ПодсемействоThe Peterson Roll subfamily covers the wrestling-derived turtle escape where the bottom fighter reaches across, hooks the opponent's far arm, and rolls over the shoulder to reverse the position. [1] Named after American wrestler John Peterson, this roll uses the opponent's forward pressure and a cross-body arm hook to create a rolling reversal that puts the escaping fighter on top. [1,2] The Peterson roll is particularly effective because it uses the opponent's own weight and pressure as the energy source for the roll. [2,3]
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Snap Roll
ПодсемействоThe Snap Roll subfamily covers quick, explosive rolling escapes from turtle that use a snapping rotational motion to create separation from the opponent and transition to a guard or standing position. [1] Unlike the Peterson roll which aims to reverse position, the snap roll prioritises speed and separation — the turtled fighter rolls quickly to create enough space to either reguard or stand up. [1,2] The snap roll is effective against opponents who are attempting to break down the turtle or set up back control, as the explosive roll catches them during their attack sequence. [2,3]
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Заметки
The granby roll (forward roll escape from turtle) uses momentum to invert and create scramble opportunities. Named after the Granby High School wrestling team in Norfolk, Virginia, which popularized the technique. A fundamental wrestling escape. (Wrestling coaching manuals)
Часто задаваемые вопросы
What should I avoid when doing a roll escape from turtle position?
The Fight Centre emphasizes avoiding stepping right over and hooking the leg, as this allows your opponent to figure for their legs and slows down the escape. Instead, focus on immediately transitioning to a more advantageous position.
How should I position my leg during a roll escape?
Position your shin on top of your opponent's calf rather than wrapping the leg, which allows you to scoop your hips back and transition smoothly into a belly-down position or even mount as you roll.
What should I do if my opponent defends by unlocking their hands?
If your opponent unlocks their hands to defend against the roll escape, switch to wrestling-focused escapes. The key is to threaten the roll when their hands are locked, and when they unlock to defend, immediately threaten the wrestling escapes instead.
Как работает Roll Escape?
The Roll Escape family covers turtle escapes that use rolling mechanics to reverse the position, moving the turtled fighter from a bottom defensive position to a more favourable one through rotational momentum. Roll escapes are derived primarily from wrestling, where rolling from the referee's position is a fundamental escape technique.
Откуда происходит Roll Escape?
Turtle roll escapes are rooted in wrestling tradition, where the bottom referee's position is a standard starting point and rolls are fundamental escapes. The Peterson roll in particular has a storied history in wrestling before being adapted for BJJ and MMA.
Разрешён ли Roll Escape на соревнованиях?
Unified MMA: разрешён — Legal defensive/transitional technique; IBJJF: разрешён — Legal; IJF: разрешён — Legal; ADCC: разрешён — Legal; UWW: разрешён — Legal, escape scores 1 point (freestyle), reversal scores 1 point; FIAS Sport Sambo: разрешён — Legal; NCAA Folkstyle: разрешён — Legal, escape scores 1 point, reversal scores 2 points
Насколько опасен Roll Escape?
Оценка опасности 3/10. Moderate — turtle escapes involve rolling and granby movements; neck strain risk
Как подготовить Roll Escape?
Стандартная цепочка подготовки: Create Space → Disrupt Control → Execute Escape → Recover Position.
Как защититься от Roll Escape?
Стандартные контрприёмы: Maintain Pressure — keep consistent weight distribution to limit escape space / Anticipate Direction — read escape attempt direction and block early / Transition — flow to a new position when the current one is threatened.
Какие есть варианты Roll Escape?
Распространённые варианты: Standard escape (primary escape mechanic using frames, bridges, or hip mov…); Combination escape (chaining two escape directions or methods); Counter escape (using the opponent's attack attempt to create the escape …); Competition variation (modified for rule-set optimisation).
Насколько эффективен Roll Escape на соревнованиях?
Roll escapes are used in judo, wrestling, and BJJ competition.
Какие типичные ошибки при выполнении Roll Escape?
Основные ошибки, на которые стоит обратить внимание: Rolling without commitment — partial rolls are worse than no roll; commit to the full rotation / Rolling away from the opponent — rolls should use the opponent's pressure and weight direction / Rolling when the opponent is sitting back (not driving forward) — the roll needs their forward pressure / Not protecting the neck during the roll — tuck the chin and keep hands near the neck.
Какие ещё названия есть у Roll Escape?
Roll Escape также известен как Korogari Nige, Rolling Escape, Turtle Roll.